Adventure-Spec Magadan Panniers

Questions on Adventure-Spec Magadan Panniers

• From richard at 28/08/2012 10:37
  • hi,
    
    will these fit with this rack?
    http://www.weldcore.com/drz1.jpg
  • The Magadan panniers are designed to be used with any rack system that keeps the bags away from the rear wheel and the exhuast, they are not rack specific.
    
    Hope that helps
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• From Ian at 23/09/2012 16:58
  • Hi,
    
    Do the Magadan bags incorporate a means of attachment to the lower part of a pannier frame?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Ian.
  • Ian,
    
    We have always found that 'Tags' sewn on to panniers result in tags ripped off panniers as soon as there is any reall load applied ot a constant tugging or pulling.
    
    The Magadan panniers are designed to have a strap tied around the entire pannier and then around the frame. There are slots in the front and rear bottle holders which allow the strap to pass through to help hold everything in place.
    
    Hope that helps!
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• From Michael at 22/10/2012 16:04
  • I like the look of these. Forgive my ignorance but is there an off the peg rack that I can buy to use on my 09 Tenere XT 660 Z? I see something in the picture ad for Kriega panniers but no links. Thank you for your help.
  • We recommend the use of rear luggage pannier racks like the Metal Mule units with traditional 'Hoop' luggage racks. They seem to work best with thiese panniers.
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• From Gage at 30/10/2012 15:36
  • What is the volume of each bag?
    
  • The Magadan panniers are Approx 25 litres per side.
    
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• From Chris at 11/11/2012 09:01
  • Interesting bags.....but
    In your description you said:
    <<< I decided to build a set for myself. I wanted bags that were capable of carrying a good 35 litres of stuff. The bigger the bags are, the more weight you can get down low>>>
    
    But answering someone's question:
    <<<What is the volume of each bag?
    The Magadan panniers are Approx 25 litres per side.>>>
    
    Why so small?
    And why not provide a complete product, include the PAC -Safe locking, and the extra straps to attach to a rack?
    
    It just seems you are almost there with the perfect product, but you are missing bits.
    
    
    
  • The bags roll down to less than 25 litres a side as they have a roll top. So, you can roll them down to carry a total of 35 litres or up to 25 litres per side for a maximum total of 50 litres.
    
    When we looked at providing the PAC Safe systems with the Magadan Panniers the UK importer of the PAC Safe systems wanted to charge us more to buy the locks than You could buy them from on Amazon! We simply couldn't sell the items without overcharging our customers.
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• From reefdog at 09/12/2012 10:14
  • well done Walter
    BUT
    what racks are you using to hold bags out
    
    reef
  • The magadan panniers work well with any standard hooped luggage panniers such as the Touratech or Metal Mule units.
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• From DutchJohn at 31/12/2012 16:07
  • do you have a outlet in the US?
    what would shipping be to the US?
    
  • I'm afraid we don't have an outlet in the USA. But, we do ship to the US almost every day and have a tracked courier servcie that we can follow from our warehouse to your door. Typical delivery times to the USA are 48 hours to the west coast.
    
    The price of the panniers sent to the USA will be £291 for the panniers (we remove UK sales tax when we ship outside the EU) and a shipping charge of £36.30 for a total of £291.67.
    
    Hope that helps.
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• From svsitt at 04/01/2013 17:29
  • How adjustable are the straps that go over the bike on these? I am looking at getting either two of the 1 or 2 gallon rotopax and was curious if these would fit over those. If this is not clear i am looking at mounting the rotopax to the soft luggage racks i have and then slinging these over the rotopax containers will this work?? thank you for you help.
  • svsitt,
    
    This question is very dependent on how wide the rear of your bike is. XT250 vs BMW1200GS. There should be enough strap length to hang the panniers over 2 rotopax on a smaller bike but you may struggle on a 1200GS with rear racks. That said, it is really easy to add extra length to the straps as they are designed to be variable in length using velcro.
    
    Hope that helps
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• From Jack H at 13/01/2013 05:30
  • Maybe a stupid question but to be sure....when I order 1 quantity that is for 2 bags(on each side)...right? Thank you
    
  • We only sell the Magadan Panniers in pairs. The price you see wil get you two bags.
    
    Hope that helps
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• From Andy liffen at 15/01/2013 16:44
  • How much is the combined weight of both panniers & waterproof inner bags?
  • Andy,
    
    The panniers weight Approx 4.5 kg combined weight.
    
    Hope that helps.
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• From dave at 18/01/2013 19:43
  • Will you be offering other sizes. I'd like this type of solution but with about 50ltrs per side. We generally travel 2 up.
    
    My understanding is that the max size is currently 25ltrs per side.
    
    thanks dave
  • Hi dave,
    
    We wont be going any bigger with these bags and have no plans to make any different sizes. These are as big as we would dare go with a soft bag. Anything bigger and a you need to be looking for something more rigid.
    
    Hope this helps!
    
    
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• From Jim at 21/01/2013 17:32
  • Would you toss us a picture of how these strap to a typical rack.
    
    What is typically used for straps and how do they mount.
    
    Thnaks,
    
    Jim
  • Hi Jim,
    
    try this link below to give a good setup from the 'father' of the bags, Walter Colebatch. Basically he has a strap horizontally around the bags and rack (through the hoops behind the bottle pouches), plus another one vertically for extra support.
    
    http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5238/7215385320_a34a599dbf_b.jpg
    
    The bags are designed with a fair few options for fixings. Each bike is different so getting the optimal fit for the bike/rack combo requires a bit of trial and error
    
    There are loads of images of these bags in use on Walter's epic thread from his ride this summer. There are a few relevant shots on the very first page
    
    http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=834987
    
    Chris Scott's post on his Adventure Motorcycling Handbook website also has some good shots and ideas...
    
    http://adventure-motorcyclingh.com/2012/08/05/magadan-bags-a-close-look/
    
    
    
    Hope this helps!
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• From csp at 29/01/2013 15:03
  • Is there a stiffener inside (like the Ortliebs) to keep the shape?
  • Yes there is.
    
    Hope that helps.
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• From Kelly at 30/01/2013 20:16
  • When mounted on a KTM 950, do the straps interfere with the removal of the seat?
  • The straps do run over the rear of the seat, but are velcro and can be undone with the panniers in place for easy access (although you must redo the straps over the seat before riding).
    
    Hope that helps
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• From Bob J at 05/02/2013 18:47
  • I've been following these for some time and the finished product really looks good. I am interested to see how you compare these with the new Giant Loop Siskiyou panniers that are just hitting the market. It appears that they may hold a bit more, but are a lot more expensive.
    
    Thanks in advance.
  • Bob,
    
    The Siskiyou Panneirs are physically larger than the magadan panniers, stiffer and a very different shape (they can be used with or without rear racks. The magadan panniers are conversely smaller, lighter, and are a square section shape o be used with a traditional rack system. The Magadan panniers are also slash proof.
    
    Both are great sets of panniers. Which you choose depends on your personal preferenc/needs.
    
    Good luck!
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• From SidM at 09/02/2013 02:13
  • Looks like a great product will they fit straight onto my 07 1200 GSA with the std BMW rack system, or do i need to modify the straps for extra lenth or can i order them with longer adjustable straps.
    Cheers
    Syd
  • Syd,
    
    The panniers should pork perfectly with your GSA.
    
    Dave
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• From Roderick at 11/02/2013 00:31
  • "From Jack H at 13/01/2013 05:30
    Maybe a stupid question but to be sure....when I order 1 quantity that is for 2 bags(on each side)...right? Thank you
    "
    YES, that was a stupid question!
  • Yes, you get two bags, not just one. Not such a daft question, our fault for not making it clearer!
    
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• From Brandon at 11/02/2013 20:00
  • Do you think these would work well with the wolfman racks? I like that they're smaller&lighter than traditional racks, but think they may mount the bags too high, being counter productive. if it helps these would be on a 01 Dakar
  • The Magadan panniers are designed to be used witha traditional 'square' hooped rack. I am aware of the wolfman racks and can't guarantee a perfect fit, although I am sure (as with most things) they could be adjusted to fit.
    
    I'm sorry I can't be of more help, but without racks and panniers in front of me its hard to be accurate.
    
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• From Andrew Aitken at 17/02/2013 02:09
  • can you tell me if the bags are able to fit to a 1200GSA and a xt660 tenere, as i have both bikes can the connecting straps be expended and contracted to fit both
    
    Andrew
  • Andrew,
    
    Yes, the Magadan panniers do have an expandable top strap and they should fit perfectly on both models of bike.
    
    Many thanks for the email.
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• From McGarrett at 17/02/2013 17:31
  • What should I look for in a strap to secure the bags to my racks? I understand the PacSafe option is good for "securing" them, but I also need something to secure them from moving and flopping around. Can't wait to use the bags on an adventure!
  • McGarrett,
    
    A simple 1 inch tape strap with a metal camlock buckle is usually the most popular solution. You can get these from any motorcycle shop that sells new bikes (the new models come tied down with them), or you can buy a good quality proprietary brand of strap such as Rok Strap.
    
    Hope that helps.
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• From Don Wilson at 08/03/2013 19:41
  • Hi,
    
    Just noticed that the huge price increase on the Magadan, now $523 USD plus shipping? Is this true? Hi quality to be sure but.....Ouch!
  • Don,
    
    The magadan panniers are the same price they have always been. We have never changed them. I am confused about your comments.
    
    Dave
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• From Sabin Kolarov at 25/03/2013 08:52
  • Hello,
    
    Will these fit Jessie paniers rack?
    http://www.jesseluggage.com/ktm950-990.html
    
    If you look on 4th picture down you will see that the rack is not leveled.
  • The panniers are designed to be used with single hoop racks such as Metal Mule or our own Adventure Spec racks. The Panniers could be made to work with the Jesse racks, but you would have to make modifications to level the racks surface onto a single plane.
    
    
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• From Ulvi Salayev at 18/04/2013 03:43
  • Hi there,
    I am about to buy the panniers subject to couple of questions:
    
    1. Will you ship to NZ and how much will it cost me? timeframes of delivery, etc.
    2. Will it work with the following pannier racks? http://touratech.co.nz/shop/index.php?id_product=2743&controller=product
    
  • Ulvi,
    
    The bags will cost £291 as we remove the UK sales tax when we export outside the EU. Postage will cost £65.00 and the bags will be with you in 2-4 working days.
    
    Yes, it will work perfectly with the Touratech racks.
    
    Hope that helps
    
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• From Rick Fielding at 21/04/2013 04:20
  • I'd like to know if the Magadans would work on a bike like the Moto Guzzi V7 Stone? My worry is that the bags may have too much height to remain off the pipes of the bike. Since the exhausts are not routed high like on typical adventure bikes the Hepco Becker racks I've seen don't seem to have the width to keep a soft bag away from the exhaust pipe. I suppose when I get the bike I can measure the distance from the seat to the exhaust and see if it is possible but if you have any experience with the V7 and these bags I'd love to hear it.
  • I'm afraid we don't have any experience fitting the magadan panniers onto Moto Guzzi V7 Stones, but we have provided the measurements of the panniers so that you can use them to compare with your bike.
    
    Sorry we can't help more.
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• From mark at 24/04/2013 22:17
  • Hi I really like the look of this product and am trying to decide between these and the giant Loop panniers.
    Can you tell me please , If the loops that you use to attach the pac safe wrap safe cables to the bike with , are also Kevlar protected , so as to stop them being cut away from the bike also .
    I am considering them for my Africa twin RD04 , will the panniers be safe enough away from the exhaust ?
    mark
  • Mark,
    
    The loops used to contain the pacsafe cables are Twaron filled to reduce the likleyhood of being cut. I can't comment upon the location of the panniers with respect to your exhaust as that very much depends how you mount them and which racks you are using.
    
    Dave
    
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• From mark at 25/04/2013 18:38
  • Hi
    
    can you tell me if they will fit this rack please in the link below.
    
    http://www.heavyduties.ro/honda/at04/africatwinrd04.html#honda04r
    
    i,m very close to ordering these now , and just wish to check a couple things .
    
    many thanks
    
    Mark
  • Mark,
    
    Yes the Magadan Panniers are designed to work with racks of this type.
    
    Hope that helps.
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• From TomasV at 02/05/2013 20:29
  • Hi, what rack would you recommend for 650 XCountry please? I know "any rack' but I am having trouble finding anything in stock for that bike these days. Thank you!
  • Thomas,
    
    Both Hepco & Becker and Touratech make (or have made) racks for your bike. I recommend you start your search on their websites. Both will work perfectly wit the Magadan panniers.
    
    Hope that helps!
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• From Chris S at 13/05/2013 02:13
  • Not a question, more an interesting observation that may relate to Dave who wanted bigger.
    
    Mags may measure up at 25L when you times L by W and H.
    
    But a flexible container will expand - so in fact I got 40L of water in my Mags before rolling up and clicking shut.
    
    Full story here with pics: http://adventure-motorcyclingh.com/2013/04/13/exactly-how-big-is-soft-baggage/
    
    Chris S
    
  • Chris,
    
    You have FAR too much time on your hands! Really interesting stuff though.
    
    Thanks
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